[Cedar60] Military losses 1980-2006 - an interesting perspective

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         Brothers, we are to ever caution and whisper good counsel in the 
ear of a Brother, and in the most friendly remind him of his errors. We are 
to discuss 'Truth', and 'Truth' is what we can best agree on, if we cannot 
agree it is not Truth, or open to disputation, and to discern Truth in 
politics usually depends on our political convictions which vary from person 
to person. If we don't discuss politics, we can certainly find other things 
to discuss, philosophy and morals, discuss concepts such as what is 'good' 
or 'virtuous'. I think especially this year we should leave politics outside 
the Lodge door, for this is going to be a particularly divisive election and 
we may not be on the same page.
          We lost a person on the list because of it. I went to a California 
Lodge in Ocean Beach several years ago and they had a discussion group on 
politics and related topics with the caveat that if at any time and in any 
way, any Brother present felt offended or could not agree on where the 
discussion was leading, they would end it. If that was to be the case here, 
I think Brother Don ended it....

Just my opinion..But I had to say it....

Fraternally,
Ben Kidd   PM
Commerce #121




>> Our nation and the politics that were developed were in large part
>> influenced by our brother masons.  Why is it now that we do not believe 
>> that
>> it is proper to talk politics?  I for one like to hear both sides of the
>> field to see who has the best ideas.  When people are to afraid to talk
>> politics then they become an obstacle to the future of our nation.
>> Politicians are like used car dealers, just because you were lucky to buy 
>> a
>> good car from them once does not mean they should have your loyalty for 
>> the
>> rest of your life.  You should want to make sure that you are getting the
>> best value for your dollar or in politics, for your vote.  Good open
>> discussion about the moral and social values that a candidate brings to 
>> the
>> table can be healthy and possibly aid in electing the best person for the
>> position.  I served in the military under each of the listed presidents 
>> and
>> followed my orders.  In the military it was not right to talk bad of your
>> commander.  Now that I am not under
>>  their command, I like to have open discussions and hear others view 
>> points,
>> not just those of the media.
>>
>>   Ell Pizarek PM
>>